The Hebrew Roots Movement is nothing more than Gods way of preparing my people to shed their own misgivings about the Good News of Yeshua the Messiah, our Lord, our Savior, our Savior and part of the Godhead. That is not the intent of the Gospel. I go to the refinersfire.org to they are good too. If you believe you have liberty of these things then so be it, dont obey. Anyhoo Ive met enough crazy RCs in my lifetime that live one way during the week but get saved every Sunday at Confession to say they just dont compare to ALL the HR people. This website absolutely tests everything against scripture and exposes the truth. As with other Hebrew Roots groups, many Christians consider 119 ministries a cult. Hopefully, in the end, the death of my 12 relatives in the Nazi concentration camps will not have been utterly in vain due to Christian rebellion and disobedience to Torah commands. The plan is literally revealed on every page; every word has intricate purpose and meaning. A covenant besides the Sinai Covenant. Because the names of the months also have Babylonian names quotes not mean the Moedim are incorrect. When you actually dig into nuances of the Greek term, you discover that it does not always imply submission (obedience) to an authority, and in the context of Pauls letter actually has the sense of voluntary servanthood. If you dont agree with 119 ministries, it more than likely means you DO NOT agree with scripture. Sean, if you want something to think about, check out Lets Get Biblical by Tovia Singer. Its not Jesus + the Law that makes God great. We want to please our Father/Bridegroom-to-be dont we? I do not find anything they say or teach as being sarcastic. I can tell you, what he revealed to me rocked me to my core! Experience based on contextual understanding of scripture is a powerful antidote to doubt and COMPLETLY TRUMPS anything you think you know in your mind.. Its true This is the point at which I must raise my hand to object and seek clarification. It was very divisive in their families and some broke off family relationships permanently. I pray Gods blessings over you. in your attempt to fit me into a nice box in your mind. The old has passed away; behold, the new has come. Galatians 5:22-26. Yes Brother, Freedom in Christ means we are free from the law of sin and death through Christ, not the Law of Moses, which through Christ we are still commanded to try and keep. My analogy of pleroo is NOT incorrect as you claim, because I made no analogy. Having an open mind doesnt mean having a hole in my head so that my brain can leak out. make sure you don't hear these dreaded words yourself! There is something wrong with this ministry. When we know the truth (according to the Word of God, not according to men), we will realize that there is nothing complicated, there is nothing confusing. because the law brings about wrath; for where there is no law there is no transgression.. and so on. But from what I read, they moved here to be able to take advantage of the lower cost of living and quit their jobs to do their ministry full time. If we were to sit down I am sure (you being a follower of Jesus) would agree that these Laws God has shared with all of mankind are in fact written in your heart Just as 119 Ministries proclaim. Why does 119 Ministries present only two choices? Yes, youre correct. Or do you believe this is an acceptable interpretation of the Word of God? At best some think going to church is the way but their hearts are far from God. Nevertheless, each of us test everything for ourselves. It is ok to believe someone to be entirely incorrect but as soon as you attack credibility by saying someone is using the word just as Satan did you make a leap in ad hominem attacks instead of simply refuting with your interpretations of facts. Consider that Moses was righteous in the eyes of Elohim. I apologize Leah, if thats not your stance on the topic. Maybe you can. When we are in Jesus our debt to breaking the law of God has been paid and we are no longer condemned of our transgressions. We believe we are saved by grace through faith in the Word of God (Jesus/Yeshua). Dear Brothers and Sisters in Christ please consider this. Recently made aware of 911 Ministries. Its not two stories for two sets of people. He is UNCHANGING HIS WORD IS FOREVER NEVER CHANGING! God forbid the men you referenced enter into Islam instead of HR. to complete When we search the scriptures we see evidence of Gods law prior to mount Sinai for example the offering to God by Cain & Able (Able gave a lamb the Passover lamb), the sin of adultery, etc. 22 But the Scripture has shut up everyone under sin, so that the promise by faith in Jesus Christ might be given to those who believe. Through the. I believe they do this because the most common use of this verse is to offer proof text that Jesus words say he came to bring an end to the Law. Furthermore, todays Gregorian Saturday does not coincide with the original Shabbat created by YHVH according to the Hebrew lunar calendar. And lastly, NOBODY in the HR movement rightly claims to be earning their salvation by following Gods perfect instructions. Jesus predicted that he will tell many sincere believers to basically "get lost" instead of welcoming them into the Kingdom. As far as the cult accusation, I don't know how a couple of families supporting each other in a ministry producing Bible teaching videos makes for a scary "cult." Amen!. Torah was passed on orally. A couple of days later, the devotional read, "The doorway to freedom is submission". Sounds more like the Pope and the Catholic church to me (having been there half my life before studying Scripture.). In our paper, we mentioned that you had said you were planning another video on Leviticus 20. And in Rav Shauls spirit-filled efforts to effectively deal with the various issues that plagued the Messianic Community, Protestant Christians mistakenly see this as a sign that the Tanakh (Old Testament) is no longer valid. He has to return for his bride before the marriage covenant is fully in effect. Also by Jesus saying He came for the lost sheep, hes fulfilling the messianic prophecy you spoke of from Jeremiah. Your calling the son of Yahuah, Yahusha a liar! Little has changed over the centuries, except that there have always been faithful who sought to keep Torah, including the Sabbath (rest), the appointed times of YHVH,, eating only clean animals aka food, etc., as well as lawless ones who persecuted them. (what does Satan, I mean Santa have to do with anything, except NOTHING, or Easter, one of the many names of Mithraism and the eggs dipped in the blood of your sacrificed infant to YOUR god, Molech) Its Sun-god worship. Your succinct comments in 2. above are well stated and true, as I understand and believe. 26 For you are all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus. And again, the other evidence that the New Covenant is not FULLY in effect yet is this Do ALL Believers have Gods laws written on their hearts (another idiom, meaning to have it memorized like we say we know something by heart) when there are over 30,000 Christian denominations with many differing views of what Gods law really says? If left strictly to others we do what men want us to do. The heavy loads on the peoples shoulders represented much of what you will find in the Talmud writings that were, at the time, in oral form. And in the whole discourse of John 14 where Jesus is talking about He & the Father being one, Jesus never once mentions obeying Torah. Pride? Not really. 23 Then Yeshua addressed the crowds and his talmidim (disciples): 2 The Torah-teachers (scribes) and the Prushim (Pharisees), he said, sit in the seat of Moshe. Thank you for your time. They demonstrate their love and trusting faith of God by striving to be obedient. This has been true since Adam. 28 Someone who disregards the Torah of Moshe is put to death without mercy on the word of two or three witnesses. For if a law had been given which was able to impart life, then righteousness would indeed have been based on law. The Holy Spirit opened my eyes to Paul as well, where I no longer feel he contradicts our Savior. Left Behind is Back! So its tedious to go through their writings & pull out the errors. I interpreted that as debunking the validity of the Hebrew Calendar. Leah, you seem to disagree with 119s teaching primarily for 2 reasons (from what I tell by your responses, correct me if Im wrong): 1.) You may reject Him, but what kind of danger does that put you under? Obeying the law simply cant make you spotless or righteous. I think that many people misunderstand the way grace takes hold in our lives to transform us. Isaiah 53! I am okay with practicing Hanukkah and Purim, but they cant have it both ways, I now attend a Messianic Jewish congregation. There are way too many to be, they are you and me, Israel!! Be careful of spiritual pride . The problem with Jacob and his wives is yours, not Gods.. So truly, the best defense we have is the Scripture itself and praying for your sister & mother. In this passage, Paul is saying there is Law and there is faith: of which are you? 4 They tie heavy loads onto peoples shoulders but wont lift a finger to help carry them. who is behind 119 ministries. In fact, in Revelation 12, the dragon comes for the Saints who have kept the commandments of God and have the testimony of Jesus Christ! 119 Ministries is extremely active on social media and the internet, with smartphone apps and an extensive library of online teachings. Ironically, many Christians would be quite surprised to find out that Yeshuas half brother, Yaakov (James in English), continued to observe the Torah even after our Lords resurrection. NO, devil-worshipping, unrepentant, worldly JEW will EVER be the least one of My followers UNTIL they repent and are born from above. I trust you will accept my comments with the same love in which they are being given. It will be life from the dead! Now we have to ask when/where did Abraham get these commandments? The Epistles themselves are a proof of the Judaism of the Church. I am not by any means an ecumenicismist but I also am wary of any group . Fulfill is the English word used for translation by a super-majority of biblical translations. In this respect, 119 Ministries still has a leg to stand on while youre kicking them in the shin. 3 So whatever they tell you, take care to do it. Why does Gods word say Ruach Elohim rather than simply Elohim? You seemingly dismiss the Hebrew word ruach (Strongs Hebrew #7307) as only meaning breath. Yes, it is translated breath about 27 times in the word of God. Saturday on our current Gregorian calendar was created by Pope Gregory based on our solar cycle. Amen. I stayed away from all churches and decided to read scripture for what is was The WORD of the Living God. Are you choosing to follow the law given to Moses by God for the Israelites to follow as they entered the Promised Land and became a sovereign nation unto the Lord? Jesus was the highest demonstration of Gods grace, not the first appearance of it. 18 Yes indeed! It is NEVER used in the sense of no longer making the law of God applicable. And it is a real stretch in translation to use pleroo in the sense of fully preaching or teaching. Oh well, so much for the false doctrine of once saved, always saved and the so-called license to sin because God is much to loving to punish us for willfully continuing in sin and lawlessness. Together we can strengthen one another in love and so help build and protect the bride of Christ, His church. That he expects us to live accordingly to his Teachings. For shame! the cult of St. Olaf I believe under the law means under condemnation that the law demands in breaking the commandments of God. The bulk of your reply was an ad hominem attack on me. Then you finally claimed to one of my co-authors some excuse that wasnt even good enough for me to remember! Would you steal from your neighbor? Along with that note that it is very clear with whom the NEW COVENANT will be made: The house of Israel and the house of Judah (aka northern kingdom and southern kingdom respectively.) How the church lies. Why is it whenever someone decides to reject the Christian traditions of men such as celebrating pagan holidays, Sunday worship, which is not and never has been the Sabbath, they are attacked and maligned by the traditional church. I can name numerous false teachers who are catholic, protestant, hebrew, etc from all denominations, so does that mean everyone is wrong? Allah is the only deity I know of who changes his mind so frequently. 17 Dont think that I have come to abolish the Torah or the Prophets. (paraphrased). If you could provide some of your few largest disconnects, Id love to hear them. Theres one student there whos been a part of the Hebraic Roots movement for as long as Ive known him and maybe longer. Think of all the people Abraham was told would be his descendants, they are not all Jews! Lastly, the book of Acts (written most likely by Luke, of the Gospel of Luke) declares from Jesus lips: My prayer is that the God of my ancestors (Avraham, Yitzakh and Yaakov) will heal those emotional wounds so that you dont have to continually suffer from such a terrible tragedy. The Brit Hadashah (New Covenant or New Testament Scriptures) hadnt even been codified until long after the apostles death. Grace and Peace in His authority . All 119 is trying to do is truly, unbiasedly challenge believers in Yeshua to test and prove with OT and NT agreement what they believe. What Paul was doing in these letter is called Halacha or a Halachic Ruling. Knowledge puffs up and when learning takes a path of that flat out condems others, then it vain point is missed need to back up and rethink life and everything. Because right after that, in the very next verse, Jesus says, 20 For I say to you that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the scribes and Pharisees, you will not enter the kingdom of heaven. Provide a vehicle to disseminate Yahweh's truth and the whole Word of God to help others alsoseek, teach and live out the truth of the Word. Do we follow the law in order to be saved? Yahushua prayed in the garden Father, if you are willing, take this cup from me; yet not my will, but yours be done. that sums it up for me, who Yahushua was submitting to. Please pray for my husband that Holy Spirit will reveal His truth as he has been watching 119 ministries and I am concerned ! Who am I to pick and choose what applies to me? That means there needed to be a way to redeem that portion. Well, we have this the gate is narrow, not wide! If Christianity is the way, why are over 2/3 of believers walking away from God and why is divorce and disease in Church on par with the world? Now think about that for a bit. Will return tomorrow or the next day. Pleroo is almost always translated using one of these third choice English words. This is how we will be acceptable to Him when He returns: For you have died, and your life is hidden with Christ in God. LOL Sabbath is the 7th day. His death was what now allows me to live. And btw even the Catholic church claims THEY changed the Sabbath and that the Protestants give homage to them by keeping Sunday. I am not positive, but I believe 119 Ministries falls more along the lines of when Jesus said, I came not to bring peace but a sword in Matt. Im currently reading Tovia Singer and other Jewish authors. A generic answer indicates little knowledge. That also ties in with james ..faith with out works is dead . How then did the commands of Yahweh just vanish? Feel free to argue with Strong as you wish. 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