I know Barnes recommends . for deep penetration. I haven't even shot these swifts yet but even if they shoot well at the price per bullet I could get some CE or other custom bullets. hunting the largest CXP3 and CXP4 game with appropriate calibers and bullet " The 2012 MSRP for a box of 100 .308/180 grain A-Frames is $64.25, about 4-1680 Midland Avenue Toronto, Ontario M1P 3C6, Canada Phone: 416-909-4121 Email: info@georgesshootingshack.ca Swift manufactures two bullet lines, A-Frame and Scirocco $100 .Click for more info Seller: 22fanguy Area Code: 360 $100.00 .50 & .40 Caliber Cast Lead Bullets GI#: 102142086 other CXP2 animals and it expands at lower impact velocities. What started as a small dream has become a multi-million dollar international business A-Frames are expensive bullets. Funny note I sorted the bullets just out of practice for my dads 300 savage in his model 99. To start, I seated the Sciroccos for a cartridge length of 2.26 inches over 25.0 grains of Power Pro 2000 MR. That load grouped three Sciroccos in .68 inch at 100 yards. Then I weighed them and took everything from 150.1-149.9, 15 bullets failed this test although it was much closer with 3 or so being 150.2 a few at 149.8 and the rest at 149.7. The jackets are quite thick near the tip and increase in thickness along the shank. At Swift they strive to make hunting bullets that perform two very important functions. Joined . The Swift Bullet Company Reloading Manual Number Two states: "The fact remains that when it comes to producing a tight-grouping load, in a particular firearm, there is no way to predetermine the component combination and bullet seating depth that will do it best. Its tapered, pure copper jacket is exceptionally thick and boat-tail base. Plus or minus .1 grain on a 150 grain bullet is too tight a tolerance to sell at a reasonable price and not necessary for 99.99% of practical hunting appications. It carries velocity and energy better than any of its competitors. Forever. The Scirocco II produces positive expansion at minimal velocities as well as controlled expansion and high weight retention at close range. For the past three years it has been in development and has hunted dangerous African game, including numerous elephant and buffalo, with outstanding results. The proprietary metal, a rebated ogive, a short driving band, and a lead core, all make the Break-Away Solid very gentle on barrels. Tapered copper jacket bonded to lead core, Advanced secant ogive maximizes ballistic coefficient, Proprietary polymer tip improves ballistics and initiates low-velocity expansion. With a cartridge length of 2.28 inches, 62-grain bullets are right against the start of the lands in my Savage Predator Hunter .223 Remington with a 1:9 twist. The core of a Partition is not bonded to the jacket and Swift Scirocco II 6,566 views Jan 22, 2020 56 Dislike Share federalpremiumammo 54.9K subscribers Push effective range to new extremes while delivering a more lethal blow on impact with Federal. Swift 165-grain Sciroccos paired with IMR-4831 provided this group at 100 yards shot from a Ruger American .30-06 rifle. Indeed, in Africa the A-Frame is considered one of the best operations in 1982 by making their jacketed rifle bullets from .22 rimfire A Savage Predator Hunter .223 Remington was used to test Swift Scirocco bullets. out, as the original Scirocco and all specifications and reloading data remain Refine by Grain Weight: 90 130. Scirocco II bullets were handloaded in six cartridges: (1) .223 Remington, (2) .22-250 Remington, (3) .243 Winchester, (4) .25-06 Remington, (5) .30-06 and (6) .300 WSM. The listed BC's are derived both from test-shooting and some calcuations, and show variations within different velocity ranges. jackets. We will be happy to answer any of your questions and ensure that you have the right supplies and equipment for a day at the range or in the field. Remember your bullet, at whatever the cost, is the least expensive, most important part of your hunt - many hunters all over the world know this and purchase Swift bullets. McLeese Lake BC. after impact, claimed to be around 95%. bullets, but my impression is that the Partition, in appropriate calibers, drops They have no "popularly priced" bullet line and they offer Joined May 18, 2005 Messages 133. A-Frame 50/Box, Swift - Bullet - 9.3mm (.366) 300 gr A-Frame 50/Box, Swift - Bullet - 375 (.375) 300 gr A-Frame 50/Box, Swift - Bullet - 404 (.423) 400 gr A-Frame 50/Box. The gun I'm really trying to get dialed in is my rem 700 in 7 mag and best so far is ES of 28 and a group of .647" at 100. They have a Sign Up now for email offers and more news! I assumed this is how most of the longrange hunters do it. They are virtually indestructible at velocities in excess of 3000 feet per second. I got ES of 18 and it shot a .6" 3 shoot group at 100 yards. In 1994, Bill Hober, a former Pepsi Cola executive, joined the Swift I mean if I wanted consistancy I would expect to get close from box to box, I would think. What changed was the metallurgy of the copper jackets that have been annealed to better withstand high-impact velocities. All Rights Reserved. Its sleek design and high ballistic coefficient produces the flattest trajectory in downrange hunting, making it a perfect match for l. The same with antimony added to lead, it makes it brittle. Pure copper and lead, though, are more elastic to better withstand the stress of expansion at high velocity. I think the Scirocco is a tougher bullet. A bull elk was the most recent big game shot with a Scirocco. It may not display this or other websites correctly. You are using an out of date browser. Thread starter 300winnie; Start date May 30, 2006; Help Support Long Range Hunting Forum Become a supporting member. Cam Pro is a Canadian based bullet manufacturer and a family owned business offering an array of copper plated, bulk reloading, lead-safe or sporting handgun bullets. Thats the route I took developing a load for 90-grain Sciroccos for a Cooper Firearms Model 22 chambered in .243 Winchester. Max load was 70 gr velocity at 3044 with an ES of 7 but grouping wasnt great (over 1"). is thicker and its bonded core prevents almost all lead loss after impact. in bullet manufacturing, their tight focus on what they do best has made them a Sloan.gun), I understand this is an old thread, but want to reply anyway. If you decide not to try and shoot them I would be glad to take them off your hands and see if they will shoot. Partition are different. Sorting the bullets this way is what was recommend on shawns video and I believe trebark, although I think I read trebarks threads about reloading on snipershide. all for one money. This is something we need to do to continue using our email system. Swift ammo is basically handcrafted and hand inspected. This ammunition is virtually hand crafted, hand inspected, and is water tight sealed. (.338) 225 gr A-Frame 50/Box, Swift - Bullet - 9.3mm (.366) 250 gr. Swift Scirocco II Gold Medal primer Heavy rifle A-Frame bullets are for use on dangerous game. Hits like a 9mm Luger. Don't miss your chance to own exclusive Federal-branded Stone Glacier apparel. Swift has made and offered the finest hunting projectiles in A-Frame, Scirocco, and Break-Away for over 30 years. Cartridge length averaged 2.647 inches for Swift High Grade .243 Winchester cartridges loaded with 90-grain Sciroccos, and those loads averaged .97 inch for two, three-shot groups at 100 yards. In the last group I sorted the largest group of bearing surface that passed was .514-.516. Magnums and they F: 785-754-2359. All requests will get our immediate attention.. Reach Us 4-1680 Midland Avenue Toronto, Ontario M1P 3C6, Canada Phone: 416-909-4121 Email: info@georgesshootingshack.ca Anyone have any experience or have heard good or bad about them. Thumbing through my handloading records, I counted 83 groups shot with rifles chambered in 17 different cartridges loaded with .22-, .24-, .26-, .27-, .28- or .30-caliber Sciroccos, beginning with 62-grain bullets fired from the .223 Remington up to 180-grain bullets shot from the .300 Winchester Magnum. To start that process, Sciroccos can be seated fairly close to the start of the rifling in a rifles barrel, say .030 inch from contact. cases, much as Speer and Hornady had done in the late 1940's. JavaScript is disabled. It is This new design allows the bullet to open up at very low velocities (1200 fps), which is critical in these slow moving cartridges. Swift Scirocco II Bonded Bullets (4 boxes 100 ct. each) 6.5 130 grain Toggle navigation MENU I had more weight variation with 75 grain Scirocco bullets than you got with 150 grain bullets and my bullets shoot just fine, 0.6 MOA at 200 yards. Offering higher-than-average BCs, even for boattailed, polymer-tipped bullets, coupled with heavy-jacketed, bonded construction, the Swift Scirocco II is a superbly tough bullet that performs well on just about any game at any distance. and .458 Win. I would shoot them then say your disappointed..if you never prepped them first you may not even notice a difference. 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I have used the scirocco in my .257 wby and is very accurate in my rifle. Swift Scirocco bullets? Swift Bullet Company. For more information go to - P65Warnings.ca.gov. Push effective range to new extremes while delivering a more lethal blow on impact with Federal Premium Swift Scirocco II loads. Scirocco II, with the Signature Black Tip, is a superbly accurate hunting bullet designed for long-range efficiency. I bought a box of these bullets several years ago and was never able to get consistent accuracy. It doesn't matter if you are a reloader or if you are buying top grade ammunition for a hunt, the Swift A-frame bullet is known around the world for results. The 7mm 150-grain Scirocco measures 1.385 inches long, compared to 1.365 inches of the Swift 175-grain A-Frame. (.224) 62 gr Scirocco-II 100/Box SW-710749 $112.99 Did I just get a bad batch of swift bullets? Although your variance test are a little disheartening. A plastic tip in the hollowpoint lessens air resistance in flight and initiates expansion on contact with game. Scirocco .30-caliber 180-grain bullets carry a .520 BC measured against a .507 BC for Nosler 180-grain AccuBond bullets. Hober said original Sciroccos were really the first long-range hunting bullet on the market, and were good out to 1,000 yards. To aid in that long-distance shooting, the Sciroccos polycarbonate tip, secant ogive and 15-degree boat-tail creates bullets with a high ballistic coefficient (BC). (.224) 62 gr Scirocco-II 100/Box, Swift - Bullet - 22 Cal. Quinter, KS 67752, P: 785-754-3959 Midsouth Shooters also offers the Scirocco bullet to reloaders. THE OUTCOME IS USUALLY THE SAME: almost all of the ries (with the exception of one particularly evil .264 Winchester Magnum) gave subMOA accuracy and excellent eld performance. medium (CXP2) game, it was desirable for the front part of his Partition bullet For the best experience on our site, be sure to turn on Javascript in your browser. New from Swift for 2012 is their 9.3mm/286 grain A-Frame that should be a spectacular performer on heavy animals in this potent medium bore caliber. From there, bullets can be paired with several powders with charge weights at least a few grains below the maximum listed in the Swift reloading manual and increase charges in half-grain increments as testing proceeds. conditions with identical caliber and weight Nosler Partition and Swift A-Frame 3153 avg, 72 es, 26 sd. Swifts Reloading Manual Number Two contains plenty of load data for Scirocco bullets. Front-End Developer Julian Jorgensen, Vancouver. That makes the bullets good out to 800 and 900 yards, Hober said. The Scirocco II is a good choice for use on all medium and JavaScript is disabled. The box the bullets are packaged in is the only visible difference between original Scirocco bullets (right) and Scirocco II bullets. Remember your bullet, at whatever the cost, is the least expensive, most important part of your hunt - many hunters all over the world know this and purchase Swift bullets. In this box that group was.530-.532, this is a big difference from box to box I would think, Right? Break-Away Solids will be available in 9 different calibers, from 9.3mm through 500 cal. spectacular performer on heavy animals in this potent medium bore caliber. development of the Scirocco bullet line and bringing Swift to prominence as a You may have noticed a new age verification message when you entered the site. See our selection of Swift Bullets below. dangerous game bullets and it is widely recommended for hunting Cape buffalo. point, keeping the rear half of the bullet, with its separate lead core, intact New from Swift for 2012 is their 9.3mm/286 grain A-Frame that should be a selling ammunition, reloading supplies and accessories. The Scirocco II Refine by Grain Weight: 150 165. product. In its construction we use the finest components available to produce 31 different calibers in two series. The deer went about 20 yards before he flopped. First, to make bullets that shoot straight and second, to make bullets that provide great terminal performance. May 30, 2006 #1 Does anyone know what Swift recommends as far as how far off the lands to start load development? Partition bullet. A cartridge length of 2.460 inches, .054 inch off the start of the rifling, produced a somewhat acceptable 1.67-inch average for two, three-shot groups. Well even though I was dissapointed with how the swifts sorted I think I'm going to run them this year. Sciroccos expand violently, increasing the terminal effect of more sedate cartridges. & Accessories, Swift - Bullet - 8mm (.323) 220 gr A-Frame 50/box, Swift - Bullet - 30-30 Cal. I use A-Frames in my .338 Win. The 165-grain bullet fired from a .300 WSM hit the bull behind the diaphragm as it trotted along at about 75 yards. Both are bonded lead core bullets with copper, rather than gilding metal, Get the most of rimfire with loads that offer both accuracy and violent expansion on impact. Heavy rifle A-Frame bullets are for use on dangerous game. Have had excellent results on caribou, moose, girzzly and brown bears. See our selection of Swift Bullets below. Two years later, We're also planning on running streams this week for Shot Show so keep an eye out. 94g Retumbo, CCI250, Berger 210. The 180 grain Scirocco was the best performer. Do Not Sell My Data. 2023 Swift Bullet Company. I use them as my 300 Wby Mag loves the 180 gr Scorocco II. With its controlled expansion of 2.2x and 95%+ weight retention A-Frame penetrates deep and mushrooms perfectly, making it the choice of hunters for use on any game, anywhere in the world. This 150-grain Scirocco fired from a .30-06 was retrieved from an elk. AF Lever-Action 50/Box, Swift - Bullet - 25 (.257) 100 gr A-Frame 50/Box, Swift - Bullet - 25 (.257) 120 gr A-Frame 50/Box, Swift - Bullet - 6.5mm (.264) 120 gr A-Frame 50/Box, Swift - Bullet - 6.5mm (.264) 140 gr A-Frame 50/Box, Swift - Bullet - 7mm (.284) 160 gr A-Frame 50/Box, Swift - Bullet - 7mm (.284) 175 gr A-Frame 50/Box, Swift - Bullet - 30 Cal. Lead free, hollow point boattail design. velocity rifles. Muzzle loader and heavy revolver A-Frame bullets are one in the same. 50 per box. coefficients and this results in a comparatively flat trajectory. I have not shot animals side by side under controlled Here in North America, the A-Frame is highly regarded for shooting moose, brown The jacket comprises approximately 71 percent of the weight of a 90-grain .24-caliber Scirocco and nearly 63 percent of a 150-grain .28-caliber Scirocco. You must log in or register to reply here. Scirocco| Rifle Bullets. I don't know whether it was a I or II for the scirocco bullets. But its the Sciroccos construction that makes it deadly when it hits game. The One retained roughly 88% when I shot a moose head on through both sides of the skull and deep into the neck at less than 10 yards. premium bullet manufacturer. point bullet. More reloads and better patterns for the most elite trap, skeet and sporting clays shooters. Midsouth Shooters also offers the Scirocco bullet to reloaders. Bullet seating depth made quite a bit of difference for the .22-250. It has been extensively field tested, with many hunters and PHs throughout Africa. the earlier Nosler Partition bullet, the performance of the A-Frame and Swift Scirocco bullets. All rights reserved. Heavy Revolver A-Frame bullets expand at 950 feet per second, to 1.65x their original caliber, and maintain 97% of their weight. Break-Away Solids will be available in 9 different calibers, from 9.3mm through 500 cal. I followed the same procedure developing a load for 62-grain Sciroccos to shoot in a Sisk Rifles .22-250 Remington with a 1:8 twist barrel. Add to Wish List Add to Compare. 2150 Pierre-Louis-Le Tourneux, suite 110. Swift High Grade factory 7mm Remington Magnum cartridges loaded with 150-grain Scirocco bullets averaged just over one-inch groups shot from a Remington Model 700 Classic. If you want them all I'd take $250 TYD. The bullet thats defined self-defense for a generation is now available as a component. Out of stock. What started as a small dream has become a multi-million dollar international business Now it makes those same projectiles available to you in Swift HIGH GRADE Hunting . Refine by Grain Weight: 165 180. no match bullets, plinking bullets, lead free bullets, etc. the same. The 150- grain Scirocco is a great deer bullet fired from my .300 Savage. 31 different calibers in two series. Scirocco II, with the Signature Black Tip, is a superbly accurate hunting bullet designed for long-range efficiency. Apr 25, 2006. The inside and outside shapes of the original and II are the same, Hober said. Not wanting light but have a 284 that shoots the 160 class bullets. Thanx for looking and not looking for any trades at this time. Only 3 bullets failed the weight test with all others failing the bearing surface test. (Enough time has passed that Im going to just call them Sciroccos.) bullet. Carries like a 380 Auto. Here is the load data sheet for the 7mm Rem Mag from my Swift manual: View attachment 415910. Swift Swift - Bullet - 8mm (.323) 220 gr A-Frame 50/box SW-322201 $110.99 $2.22 per piece Out of stock Notify Me Wishlist Compare Swift - Bullet - 30-30 Cal. . I have heard great performance reviews on the SC II's. I really wanted the 130's to shoot well in my Sendero 264, just could not get them under an inch. Bullets. Once a powder is selected, bullets can be backed off the rifling in short increments. 284winner. I don't think I was being too strict on my sorting, I followed the steps on reloading for longrange hunting. One bullet I used making a dummy round and never measured. Aided by its proprietary polymer tip, the Scirocco II expands at minimal velocities yet offers high weight retention at close range thanks to its bonded copper jacket. The bullet had expanded widely, yet held onto 135 grains of its initial weight. separation of jacket and core.