Hi Bernadette! I am wondering, will I have problems with that layover at Gatwick? now i am married and have kids. 2. Also, were you deported from Switzerland? Hey Barton! So when you apply, it should be for a work visa with all the information of the company that is sponsoring you. Hey Lindsey, thank you for your reply, I was planning to going back from Brussels but some of people suggested to going back from another country is more safe since I overstay. Im currently living in Milan, Italy as an Au pair with a family but I also have an Italian boyfriend. I thought that then I would be able to obtain my Irish passport and use it to return to the U.S. Appreciate. While I have been traveling I have been completing online courses to finish my last semester of university. I recommend making sure you have all your school documents and even proof of you trying to submit your visa renewal application back in 2018. The worst is the can issue a fine and potentially give him an exclusion period from entering Europe for 3 years or so. They cannot deport you if youre already at the airport leaving. I am not sure why you are not receiving them. In France emotional connection to the EU rose from 44 percent to 48.8 percent and in Italy from 37.2 percent to 44.3 percent. Duration & validity are different. I came to Spain in September of 2016 (entered Schengen via Portugal), to live with my fiancee (shes Spanish). 6/21/2018-8/29/2018. There are many people who are living in Schengen zone countries without residence visas. Very serious breaches can lead to penalties of 10,000 to 100,000. Greece is quite strict. I'm pretty sure the responses to Sally's post are not what she was hoping for, and she has probably given up on getting law-breaking ideas from this gang. Hey! I am only consider one month visa and not seen the duration of the stay period. Greece is extremely sensitive for overstaying right now due to the refugee and financial crisis. What should I do??? which visa is good to apply, tourist visa first or go ahead with family reunification. Hello, . I have always recommended to avoid exiting from Germany/Austria/Switz if you have overstayed. the officer scolded me why i overstayed for almost 2 yrs, i didnt saw him scan my passport and he got out from the boot because i presumed that his work time has finished and talked to me at the corner and asked me why, i told him i was from norway because my aupair permit in passport is that from norway, he told me that we should send you back to norway and face jail time, then after a few minutes he gave me my passport and told me that okay this is just a warning so go on your way now and i dont have more time, i must go now too. You need to actually apply for the Schengen Visa to be in Finland as well since you just need 1 Schengen Visa to visit any of the countries, you can apply in Finland. The U.S. and most of Europe is in what the Romanian authorities call the red zone. Oh well, well see what happens. Logic, sense, and facts are nice things as long as they dont step on the toes of who we think we are. I would also contact the U.S. Embassy in Iceland (anonymously) and ask. My fianc lives there and all I want to do is visit him. Hey there! Best of luck! i am here now since 2015 and got a nice paying job. Hey! You might need to go back to Turkey to apply for a C type visa. Therefore, Portugal can issue you the fine if they catch this error in your stay. On my letter of entry to a Spanish class program it says the final day of school is December 23rd, 2017, My visa stamp from Portugal shows I entered the Schengen Zone on January 6th, 2017. I suggest calling Frances immigration agency and ask them what to do if you are stuck waiting for the work visa. As a side note, I didnt renew because they require ~700 euros a month in a bank account to make sure you have enough money to live. (Long story, but I stayed thinking I could figure out a way to make it legit eventually, and now I am kind of stuck here.) I plan to have my work contract with dates as well as some other receipts from Austria in case they stop me, but I was just unclear on if I was allowed the tourist visa after my type D expires. -Do my wife need to do anything? Dear Lindsay, Great that I found this article. Just thinking you will find work when you get there isn't a good idea. Ive been back to Europe since those 180 days are up with no problems whatsoever. . Ah! Otherwise, I suggest exiting through Spain or Italy. However, the date is the only part of the stamp which is truly legible. I am in Prague. Im an American citizen and Im planning to go back to the U.S. very soon. Hi, I am from Colombia and I am currently doing an internship with a company in Austria. I have C-type business multi-entry visa valid from July 3, 2018 until January 2, 2019 with duration of stay 60 days. Thanks so much for writing this. But, believe me, when you are entered intobthe SIS it sticks. Im not concerned about getting back into Europe any time soon, or the potential fine, my concern is getting a black mark on my passport that may cause New Zealand officials to turn me away when i get there, even though I have a NZ Visa. Hello! That Schengen country can bust you for overstaying Schengen (since you would be outside Poland) and not even let you inside THEIR country. Having this documented to show to any border guards will help. I flew into Austria on 2nd February this year and since then have been flying in and out (my bf lives here so I visit a lot). I have a layover in Germany, before a direct flight to Canada. What would be the best country to leave Europe to avoid a posible ban to enter in the future? Hope you are staying safe during this time. all this talk about visasi dont even have a passport! I bid you a good day. So now becuase of this stupid mistake i made by over staying i am not allowed back in spain for 5 years. Again, her original 90 day free tourist visa expires today Oct. 10th. However, they require some information from you first, and will require a written application to the state police. However if you are caught you could end up paying a fine of $300-1500so if caught you will not have saved money. Do you have to go back through security when leaving a Schengen country to non-schengen (like from a Norway layover to the US)? The problem is they CAN enforce it, and you might be the unlucky one. Im embarrassed to say that we thought the 90-day rule meant he would have to exit the Schengen area briefly and then be able to re-enter for another 3 months. However, your family has a Schengen visa with an expiration date for all of Schengennot just Netherlands, so if your family has an exit stamp in their passport that is a date after their Schengen visa expired, that can cause an issue when you fill out new forms and they ask for that information. She ask me to give a date for the wedding, but my boyfriend and I had already decided that we would not get married and that we would expect the 6 months to leave the country. If you overstay 90 days in the EU, you risk deportation. Unfortunately, your wife doesnt really have authority to tell the immigration board when she will or will not leave she has no authority to do so, regardless of if the kids are in school (remember, they are there illegally as well). Some things suck, like my brother is having a wedding this november and I will definately not go as not to risk being banned re-entrance into spain. However, it will not go past 1200 euro. She also reported that authorities refused to acknowledge flight bookings as proof of exit from Spain. I COMPLETELY overlooked the fact that everything is now computerized and that they could scan my new passport and see all the data from my old passportand see that Ive overstayed. I know I am a delinquent and have undoubtedly broken the law, but I would really love to minimize my chances of getting fined or banned! Hello! I hope I have no troubles re-entering. In Hungary where the government has been in conflict with the EU, attachment grew from 60 percent to 70.3 percent. If you dont get caught exiting and go to a non-Schengen, no one would detain you. However, according to British Embassy sources, this grace period is no longer valid. best of luck! Thank you for the answer!!! If someone were to leave, they wouldnt let them back in, or the visa process would be canceled. Hey again! I am a US citizen who overstayed my tourist visa in Spain. However, I have a slightly different scenario and I was wondering if you would know something about it. Best of luck! There are many The only issues would be exiting Schengen. They informed me that it didnt matter so long as I sent my boarding pass. I can 100% not afford the fine, and the stamp would obviously be devastating. You have to apply to do this before it runs out. I was stopped by the immigrations and was taking to the back room. Just be mindful of the rules this time! Hi Lindsey. A visa is set into place to tell a person how long they are allowed to be within a country/Schengen. The problem is this: Theres nothing on the relevant Romanian government website confirming what the embassy told me. Only if you change visa types. I didnt consider the expiry date when booking a flight, because it was my last day of work I didnt think I would have to pack up and leave that day. If it will affect it! Hi, I am Pakistani and currently on a multiple-entry Visa Type D in Italy, for a semester studying abroad in Florence. I would call the Madrid Embassy in Madrid and ask if you can overstay your 90/180 if you only have a letter that states you have an appointment. Hello there! Because you received an extension, they might notice it more than the average tourist when you leave. I replied to your private email in response! Thanks for stopping by and telling your story. You have to understand a countrys main concern for people who overstay is that they are illegally working/living without paying taxes, or getting benefits without being in the system. The lady who checked my passport briefly said wait.. how long were you here? and I just babbled that I started in Vienna but then was in Sweden for a few days and she let me through.. When we passed through passport control on the way out of Schiphol I was caught. My passport is brand new as I got it reissued while abroad (it was full), so it only has the Spanish exit stamp on it now. If you said the expiration date was 2 days BEFORE you left and you were only granted 22 days, that means it was most likely a single-entry visa, and you must apply for a new business visa. But what if I leave through Spain? //Lindsey. Now we are debating possibilites which make it possible to stay till 9th of april as planned. Is there any security check through check-in counters? It just ruins it for the rest of us. He said I can come back, but I need to wait, how much? I would never ever do that again for a life. So it could actually draw attention to your situation. There is no general requirement to enter through the country that issued the visa, but some countries are more strict than others. For those of us that are not coming into The Zone looking for a job, with personal assets to take care of ourselves and with adequate health insurance--we ought to be able to spend longer than 90 days there. It is fine if he goes to the UK as he can stay up to 6-months as a non-working tourist. Because I want to go back but I need to calculate my 90days/180days so is this 27 days counted in 90days or no. a friend of mine went to France using a visit visa, and he overstayed for almost 4 months now. Hope this helped! It is true that Americans can study without a student visa for less than 90 days. I have a question to which you may or may not know the answer. But be aware that this could actually effect future plans of returning to Europe as they might reject tourist visas based on overstaying previously. I looked into flights on the 2nd from Oslo to Gatwick, and might be able to swing that.but the affordable ones are late enough at night, a delay might mean I end up leaving on the 3rd anyways. The guards initially stamped my passport to enter, then they noticed I had no exit stamp from that one-week visit in June, thereby classing me as an overstayer and subsequently marked the entry stamp with the letter F, the 72-year-old told expat publication the Local. The control probably didnt even register it, just scared her. I havent received any formal response from anywhere until now. Hi Lindsey, I overstayed 10 years ago in Italy for over a year. , Hi i need help i travelled to France on a type C visa and they days of stay were 10 but i moved to sweden since 17 january 2017. In any case we need to depart on 20 Oct latest. Best of luck . Is your visa a tourist or resident visa? If he is looking to come back, make sure he does not overstay again, and to look into long-term visas that will help him live there. Hello! Thanks in advance. I am wondering if you could give me some advice, I am a US citizen and recently discovered all about the Shengen zone and the fact that I am illegal here in Spain as of 13 days ago. I finished the paperwork on October 5th (74 days into my stay). My visa was approved and i was given a visa valid until the 14th of August. I came to Iceland on my 3 month Schengen allowance (and right before my 90 days were up, I received my residence permit approval. Within Schengen, you will not go through any border control *unless* that country has created a checkpoint (for example, like Denmark to Sweden by road). Im from the US and my time in the Shenghen zone ends January 5. It will be the same process from home anyway. Hey Jessi, thanks for writing in! I think it is best to speak with an immigration lawyer with a company that is wanting to hire you, and you can discuss from there. This was for a student visa? 12-day overstay. Hi David, congrats on the good news of the baby ! I know it will again depend on the person working. (I live in Sweden, and its a nightmare without having the tax number in place. Do you have written on paper from the police that you should stay in the country while awaiting your decision? Unfortunately, these are the only options for Americans if they want to get their foot in the door (and yes, I know how hard it is to do this), but maybe a company is looking for a native English speaker! When they swipe his passport, his entry date will no doubt come up and show he has been in Europe 11 months and overstayed quite a lot He will be saying that he has been travelling and in many EU countries as per what is agreed with the NZ bilateral agreement (info here -https://www.brenontheroad.com/new-zealand-bilateral-visa-waivers-schengen/) of course they may question him, but my understanding is that he should be OK if he exits from say France? I was about to leave France and go back to work in the Usa. Just need some advice. I was studying in Spain and had a student visa for 6 months. Do you know anything about getting married in Spain to a EU citizen on an expired Visa? Nothing in the world is worth it because it could ruin future visa chances if you are caught. Did someone say something to you? There is a stamp on my passport for my entry date into Hungary. Hope youre doing well. This can be levied along with other penalties and the amount depends on the country. The thing is, third month expires on 18th of June, and I have my exams until mid of July. I really wonder if my overstaying in Schengen area would affect our process to get U.S. We leave from Spain in the middle of October My question is, does she still need to apply for a visa since the total trip is longer than 90 days, even if we break it up with Croatia? But youd need to be spending more time in non-Schengen countries than just a few days. Thanks for coming back and telling your story! I would definitely suggest Italy or Spain in your case. Ouch, Latvia is pretty strict. For your question, if they never said anything to you, I am sure youll be fine. In Germany, a fine of up to 3,000 is possible while in Spain it can range from 500 to 10,000. If you want schengen visa so u can apply again. After Coronavirus I would love to visit Europe and my boyfriend, but I dont know if Im banned, If I have to pay a fine or if waiting 18 months to go would be enough. I am leaving now and would like to find out whether I will get into any trouble that might cause me to miss my flight back home? I am so nervous to wether or not i will be fined. Despite their differences, in general, the Member States apply the following penalties on those caught overstaying, including on Britons starting from this year: Despite the consequences listed above, some travellers may not be subject to any of them, in particular those who cannot travel for a strong reason that can be proved. . But just in the time between my most recent stamp and leaving Ive been only in France for over 90 days in itself. If not, how long would I have to wait until I can enter again if my 3 months just expired on July 5th? Best wishes, Hey, I have a very similar story to yours. Hi Lindsey, thank you so much for this information! I am sure it was not deliberate, but she will need to provide proof the company had said they would handle it. Just outside of Monaco, 2 vans of police shook down the Flixbus I was on and didnt catch it. I love the Blue Lagoon . Hope this helps! It is actually hard to track your journey through Europe. He is not entitled to building a life in Sweden without a visa. Im in mirth and glad to have found your blog. They were all very nice but they simply could not allow me in until because it was my clear from my passport that I had been in Schengen for longer than the 90 days, I had to wait until June. Especially since you overstayed by 1 day . Given my experience Id recommend a direct flight from Spain to the US for US passport holders. As for me, I was previously a long-term resident in Germany so I thought I would be fine on my German permanent residency visa. My previous answer is information from the Polish Embassy in Washington D.C. Would that possibly make the Swiss border/custom officer easier to deal with on the overstay issue. However, if you do not have the visa being processed and just paperwork is being filled, you might need to leave to make sure you do not overstay a tourist visa. If you exit with an expired permit (as in its past the expiration date on the card), the border control will most likely stop you, because they do ask to look at your permit when you exit. You are obviously not there for touristic purposes. Hi there! Do you have any insight on this? Sally, My husband's Schengen visa will run out on 12th June so we had contacted SEF to ask to organise an extension of 1 week. . What alerted you to knowing about Schengen? This all just recently dawned on me, Im not even sure how I will be able to leave here if I cant afford a last minute ticket. Even if there were stamps, that would mean i have until June 4, correct? I have a blog post on this here: http://www.everyoneinbetween.com/2018/07/determine-schengen-visa-validity-vs-days/. Hi Lindsey, if yes, then how? Would I be able to leave for a few days and return in October? I have been going between the U.K. And shengen area. The thing is that, I was crossing border 5 times within my current visa exceeding 60 days every last 180 days, out of 5 I was notified last time. Im very angry with this Greek lawyer who lied to us. My advice for you is to leave the country as soon as possible and research methods of securing proper visas and apply outside of Spain. But if I leave Poland directly to the USA then it falls under the terms of bilateral. Please, make feel better and told me I have nothing to be afraid of , Hey there, Raaf! Ive also been to Austria in the last 180 days so would that trip already give me the Schengen visa? Of course your passport is checked at the airline desk, but it is to make sure you are the person on the ticket. My 90 days tourist visa ends on June 21st. Nice to see another PNW person here. And of course, when Brexit comes into effect, please watch out, because there will be a change, which I will most likely post about. thanks for your prompt response. Be warned people, and I am an older guy 55 at the time and very normal looking. Thanks for such a helpful blog! Hey Christian, thanks for writing in. The good news is that the force majeure clause can be used no matter which Schengen country you are located in. You have been out 11 months, and if you were never caught, you should not get questioned on re-entry. Im assuming you were on a 6-month student visa? Its not worth it. Im confused by the contradiction of information on the internet and the agency that provide NIE#. They should have taken this into consideraton. I would try re-applying anyway and just see what happens. Also, please note that a German residence visa does not grant you permission to live in Italy. If you are discovered to have lied, then they will absolutly deny you entry if they have reason to suspect. If you have other questions regarding this, please use my contact form. Getting a work permit is a completely different story. I already paid to push my flight back once so I would really like to just enter again on a new tourist visa while I wait for the au pair visa to finish being processed Do you think Ill get any trouble going back into Denmark? My biggest concern is whether Ill be able to successfully board the flight from Rome to Zurich on Day 11. In exit point officer asked, where is your visa? Usually, you would have to apply for a tourist visa if youre non-US/CA/AUS/NZ, but usually student visas (type D) are able to travel an extra 3 months as a tourist (as long as they get a Schengen exit stamp and travel to a non-schengen country before re-entering). WebIf you leave Spain, you may be registered as having overstayed the 90-day period by Spanish immigration. What do you think the problem I can face on my way out? For Americans, there are few options, but here is one for teaching/studying and another work other employment. You would have to apply for the type D visa from outside of Schengen, and once it is approved, you would enter Italy on that visa. I am an IT Professional from India, have 10+ years work experience in Dubai and India I came to Germany in Schengen visa, and already over styaing for one month now. I am a Nigerian and I have a 2years u.K tourist visa which was issued on November 2018, I entered U.K on Feb 2019 and left May 2019. He said that he didnt mentioned anything in the SIS and this punished is only in the polish system and automatically will bs removed after 6 month ! I suggest marrying in America, and submitting all the paperwork, then when approved, apply for the spousal visa from America that way you wont overstay and risk being deported or fined. However it could be up to the border agent as to if hes having a bad day or not. You should NOT say couple of days are fine when existing, NO it is not fine at all. I think youll be fine. I overstayed 1 day extra How will the immigration officers know if its expired or not? But everything getting longer then I expected. Different Schengen countries have different fines. I was ignorant of the laws that govern the Schengen states and thats completely my fault. Anyway, for your current situation, it depends if you are allowed to leave the country while your visa is processing. I have a blog post about the perk of Dual citizenship here. to see if you are allowed to travel around Schengen freely while waiting for the visa. Hello, I am interested by this sentence: Man, if you just went to Morocco prior to the expiration of your student visa you could have returned and got a fresh 90 out of 180 day tourist visa. Does that mean if you leave the schengen zone your 90 out of 180 days re-news itself? Hey Ryan! Did you receive any type of copy of the paper? Would they force me to take a direct flight out instead? During the immigration time, Germany police catch me and show me to stay 1 day extra, this is crimes ans so on. I was told I cant get a regresso for this because we havent had our appointment yet (only the document that states we have an upcoming appointment). Wrong on both counts, obviously! Obviously it is not just for tourism, so maybe you should look into long-stay visas? Romania isnt where the problem would be, it would be exiting Italy. You need to check first if your flight is operating,. Also do you know how strict the Spanish customs are about an overstay of about 2 weeks? He needs to stay out of Schengen for 90 days completely if he used up all his days. Hey Leia! Ps : My nationality might be also an issue I am from Benin. I just wanna share my situation, technically I have a permit to stay here in finland while my working permit is on process (not totally permit I guess but it says in the letter that I can stay in finland legally however they mention that it is not valid travelling abroad). It is not just about paying a fine if you are caught. Usually, extension visas for tourists are only for medical reasons which would allow the person not to travel, and requires a doctor letter. Flying out of GVA to Toronto through London (one-way ticket) on Sunday. So, for my readers, it is correct that you can enter Montenegro if you have a valid U.S. visa? Or I completely band for few years automatically. and the fact he is going to the UK rather than back to NZ do you think that could be an issue? Im so sorry that the person informing you actually had no information at all. The countries wont flag you when it scans, but if the border guard checks your entry stamp in Iceland, he/she can do they math and question you. its stressing me out so much I cant even focus on my thesis well. I called the office in Germany and they said they would most likely close the investigation and that to not worry about it. I was not stopped or questioned when I exited after overstaying 2 days, but any math done will show a previous overstay during a 180 day period. Here is a helpful link from the immigration board about how to move to someone in Sweden to get married. Hello, Mayur here. I think Greece is going to get me with the fine, I heard that, they are very harsh with the fines is not that I have a lot of money, but I choose paying than have a chance not to comeback here to Greece. 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